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		<title>By: Stephen Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/09/06/never-fight-on-their-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry,  The answer is that we should do what good Christians would do.  That is to preach our faith and if threatened with death, turn the other cheek and become martyrs for the faith in the pure and sacred knowledge that heaven awaits us.
To match violence with violence is un-Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,  The answer is that we should do what good Christians would do.  That is to preach our faith and if threatened with death, turn the other cheek and become martyrs for the faith in the pure and sacred knowledge that heaven awaits us.<br />
To match violence with violence is un-Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Crumb</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/09/06/never-fight-on-their-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Crumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

Whether or not I believe us to be in a &#039;final&#039; or &#039;apocolyptic&#039; struggle against the Islamofacists is immaterial.  The question that I asked Lenny was not whether he believed it or not either.  The question I asked was whether or not he believed that the Islamofacists believe it or not.  And I certainly believe that the enemy does believe that they are engaged in that final/apocolyptic battle.  The overall point here being that regardless of our willingness to fight the enemy, they are fighting us.  They will continue to fight us until they either die or are successful.  This leads to my final question to Lenny which was - what do you propose we do about these people who want to kill us, if not fight them?  I believe that we must fight them to destroy them or until they surrender their global Islamic caliphate goals.  Apparently, Jon, you really don&#039;t subscribe to the concept that we are at war with Islamofacists.  What would you say we are doing then?  More importantly, who is fighting us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Whether or not I believe us to be in a &#8216;final&#8217; or &#8216;apocolyptic&#8217; struggle against the Islamofacists is immaterial.  The question that I asked Lenny was not whether he believed it or not either.  The question I asked was whether or not he believed that the Islamofacists believe it or not.  And I certainly believe that the enemy does believe that they are engaged in that final/apocolyptic battle.  The overall point here being that regardless of our willingness to fight the enemy, they are fighting us.  They will continue to fight us until they either die or are successful.  This leads to my final question to Lenny which was &#8211; what do you propose we do about these people who want to kill us, if not fight them?  I believe that we must fight them to destroy them or until they surrender their global Islamic caliphate goals.  Apparently, Jon, you really don&#8217;t subscribe to the concept that we are at war with Islamofacists.  What would you say we are doing then?  More importantly, who is fighting us?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/09/06/never-fight-on-their-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Koran teaches &quot;conversion by the sword&quot;...they cannot deny it is in there.  So, to be a &quot;moderate&quot; Muslim, you must omit this verse, or explain it away.  Therefore you are not a &quot;true&quot; Muslim at all.  The crazy jihadists are doing exactly as their false religion commands them to.  Although there are Muslims who are peaceful people, we should not mischaracterize their religion as &quot;peaceful&quot;.  The only time it is at peace with society, is when society is converting to it.  Muslims who do not practice jihad, are not &quot;card-carrying&quot;, faithful Muslims.  The Crusaders, who killed in the name of spreading Chrisitanity did not practice anything close to Christianity.  God gives a choice.  He has set before us life and death, blessing and cursing.  He gave us a free will.  Even Jesus&#039; followers are told to go forth and preach the gospel to all men - not threaten them with violence if they don&#039;t believe!  In this respect, people who would kill to spread Christianity, are not following the teachings of the Bible...at all.  

In conclusion, the Christians who participated in the Crusades were not following their ascribed religion.  The jihadists are following their ascribed religion.  Which religion is peaceful?  Not according to the actions of the people supposedly following the religion, but according to the teachings of the religion itself.  Christianity, peaceful.  Islam, not peaceful.  End of story.

The Pope should not apologize, nor offer any regret for his words.  They are truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Koran teaches &#8220;conversion by the sword&#8221;&#8230;they cannot deny it is in there.  So, to be a &#8220;moderate&#8221; Muslim, you must omit this verse, or explain it away.  Therefore you are not a &#8220;true&#8221; Muslim at all.  The crazy jihadists are doing exactly as their false religion commands them to.  Although there are Muslims who are peaceful people, we should not mischaracterize their religion as &#8220;peaceful&#8221;.  The only time it is at peace with society, is when society is converting to it.  Muslims who do not practice jihad, are not &#8220;card-carrying&#8221;, faithful Muslims.  The Crusaders, who killed in the name of spreading Chrisitanity did not practice anything close to Christianity.  God gives a choice.  He has set before us life and death, blessing and cursing.  He gave us a free will.  Even Jesus&#8217; followers are told to go forth and preach the gospel to all men &#8211; not threaten them with violence if they don&#8217;t believe!  In this respect, people who would kill to spread Christianity, are not following the teachings of the Bible&#8230;at all.  </p>
<p>In conclusion, the Christians who participated in the Crusades were not following their ascribed religion.  The jihadists are following their ascribed religion.  Which religion is peaceful?  Not according to the actions of the people supposedly following the religion, but according to the teachings of the religion itself.  Christianity, peaceful.  Islam, not peaceful.  End of story.</p>
<p>The Pope should not apologize, nor offer any regret for his words.  They are truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/09/06/never-fight-on-their-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt lennybruce believes that America is engaged in any fight that is either &quot;final&quot; or &quot;apocolyptic.&quot;  I certainly don&#039;t.  

Harry, do you believe that America is currently engaged in a struggle you would qualify as either &quot;final&quot; or &quot;apocolyptic?&quot;

If you believe these to be terms set by the &quot;Islamofascists&quot; do you think we should fight them based on the terms they set?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt lennybruce believes that America is engaged in any fight that is either &#8220;final&#8221; or &#8220;apocolyptic.&#8221;  I certainly don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Harry, do you believe that America is currently engaged in a struggle you would qualify as either &#8220;final&#8221; or &#8220;apocolyptic?&#8221;</p>
<p>If you believe these to be terms set by the &#8220;Islamofascists&#8221; do you think we should fight them based on the terms they set?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Crumb</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/09/06/never-fight-on-their-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Crumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LennyBruce,

Do you believe that the Islamofacists who wage jihad against the west are not already fighting what they believe to be the &quot;final apocolyptic battle between the force ofthe Christo-Judaic world and the forces of the Islamic world?&quot;  What do you propose we do to address the issue of those who want to kill us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LennyBruce,</p>
<p>Do you believe that the Islamofacists who wage jihad against the west are not already fighting what they believe to be the &#8220;final apocolyptic battle between the force ofthe Christo-Judaic world and the forces of the Islamic world?&#8221;  What do you propose we do to address the issue of those who want to kill us?</p>
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		<title>By: lennybruce</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/09/06/never-fight-on-their-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>lennybruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much to say about this speech. My overall impression was one of fear. I am more fearful than ever of Bush&#039;s true intentions before he fades into history. My overall take on the speech was that it was a demagogic call to arms for the final apocolyptic battle between the forces of the Christo-Judaic world and the forces of the Islamic world. When he gave his first speech I thought, okay, he is using fear to bloster the republican propsects in the mid-terms but yesterday I saw a man on a holy mission of manifest destiny, a true Crusader.

If the voices of reason dont somehow gain some control in this discussion I truly fear for the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much to say about this speech. My overall impression was one of fear. I am more fearful than ever of Bush&#8217;s true intentions before he fades into history. My overall take on the speech was that it was a demagogic call to arms for the final apocolyptic battle between the forces of the Christo-Judaic world and the forces of the Islamic world. When he gave his first speech I thought, okay, he is using fear to bloster the republican propsects in the mid-terms but yesterday I saw a man on a holy mission of manifest destiny, a true Crusader.</p>
<p>If the voices of reason dont somehow gain some control in this discussion I truly fear for the worst.</p>
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