Comments on: Immigration http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/03/28/immigration/ Large Liberal Commentary Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:30:29 +0000 hourly 1 By: walrus http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/03/28/immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-97 walrus Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:43:22 +0000 http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/03/28/immigration/#comment-97 Paul, I think you are correct in your appraisal of the situation. There are strong laws but no enforcement, which represents an attempt to hedge by elected officials, but it is also a kind of deception. What good is it to pass laws that you don't plan to enforce, or that you don't believe there is a realistic chance of enforcing? That's why I said that the Democrats ought to tell it like it is: many more people want to come to this country than currently allowed by law. These people work for less than citizens, so businesses want them, but they are also harder to track down and hold accountable for possible illegal actions, so private citizens, in some cases, do not want them. Not to mention that having these laws that aren't enforced weakens respect for the law in general. Solution: let them come legally and become citizens. No guest worker programs, no mass criminalization. It would be messy, but I also think it would be the best of all available options. Thanks for reading! Paul, I think you are correct in your appraisal of the situation. There are strong laws but no enforcement, which represents an attempt to hedge by elected officials, but it is also a kind of deception. What good is it to pass laws that you don’t plan to enforce, or that you don’t believe there is a realistic chance of enforcing?

That’s why I said that the Democrats ought to tell it like it is: many more people want to come to this country than currently allowed by law. These people work for less than citizens, so businesses want them, but they are also harder to track down and hold accountable for possible illegal actions, so private citizens, in some cases, do not want them. Not to mention that having these laws that aren’t enforced weakens respect for the law in general. Solution: let them come legally and become citizens. No guest worker programs, no mass criminalization.

It would be messy, but I also think it would be the best of all available options. Thanks for reading!

]]> By: paul http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/03/28/immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-96 paul Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:50:07 +0000 http://www.liberalwalrus.com/2006/03/28/immigration/#comment-96 hi walrus....... Coming from a right winger...me.....This is all a dog and pony show dude. There have been laws on the books dealing with this since the first World War, and many added since then. Several million folks have taken advantage of them AND become citizens. As far as stopping illegals....without getting into the pros and cons of it.....there is already legislation on the books that require an employer to pay a 10,000 dollar fine for every illegal hired. Consider, the estimated number of illegals currently in the US is about 11 million. Number of employers fined for hiring any illegals last year was.....ZERO. I rest my case. paul ps My own take on this is that Country Club Republicans and Democrats want the cheap labor and easy votes. hi walrus…….

Coming from a right winger…me…..This is all a dog and pony show dude. There have been laws on the books dealing with this since the first World War, and many added since then. Several million folks have taken advantage of them AND become citizens.

As far as stopping illegals….without getting into the pros and cons of it…..there is already legislation on the books that require an employer to pay a 10,000 dollar fine for every illegal hired.

Consider, the estimated number of illegals currently in the US is about 11 million. Number of employers fined for hiring any illegals last year was…..ZERO.

I rest my case.

paul

ps

My own take on this is that Country Club Republicans and Democrats want the cheap labor and easy votes.

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